As I’ve said before – Linux is over 2000++ versions of one Operating System, and Linus Torvalds calls that ‘Fragmentation’. There are also a *LOT* of Linux Distro installers, but probably not a list of them anywhere…the only ‘Thang that actually seems to be ‘Kept’ on a list is probably versions of the Linux Kernel, and there are a *LOT* of those lists. For example:
Each Distro also seems to have at least several Linux Kernels that can be used with it…some are updating so fast that it can stop the Distro from working on your Desktop, i.e. go to bed at night and wake up in the morning with yore computer not working because of a kernel update whilst you slept. Some kernel updates are not too bad, e.g. they’ll just wipe out yore USB ports ‘n that ‘Beloved’ favorite keyboard doesn’t work anymore. There are many many many many *MANY* reasons why Linux isn’t a popular Desktop OS, but no one wants to make a list like that either. Who would even read a list like that? Heck, Linux has never even mastered the basic Scroll Wheel Mouse ‘n a clear majority of fulltime Linux Desktop users never even realize it!?!
Anyway, humble me is venting a little, after spending *LOTS* of my ISP Data for the month ‘n a couple days testing a difficult Linux Distro. This Distro uses the Cnchi installer (which I had never heard of) and their developer/s are apparently working on a newer installer called the Fenix Installer (never heard of it either).
Whilst waiting for RebornOS to finish installing to a test 120GB SSD I’ll go ahead and start this post on it. 40 minutes ‘n it’s still not finished installing, which probably makes it the slowest Linux installation to an SSD that I have done in the almost 2 years since starting this blog.
Am not sure if it’s the Cnchi “Beta software” installer – as I roll around to 1 hour into this installation – or how close that this Cnchi installer is to the ‘relentlessly unstable and unreliable Antergos Cnchi installer’ or RebornOS’s self-recognized ‘failures in downloading packages’ or RebornOS is still having problems with ‘package download speeds’ or their warning that a “TON of packages” are going to be downloaded (see below pic), so it might need some “cache” space or I selected too many packages to add or HughesNet ISP is too slow – now at 1.5 hours ‘n over 2++GB’s downloaded – or too much focus on the release of their new pending Fenix Installer – time for a break…will be back…tick tock tick tock goes ‘Da Clock!
Well, over two hours now ‘n just @ 79% finished…heading into my ISP’s “Anytime Data” which is limited to 10GB, so hopefully not a lot more data for it to download – at 2.5++GB’s now downloaded!? Not sure how much has been downloaded, since I started between the 2AM-8AM slot of my 50GB’s of “Bonus Bytes,” and I don’t keep close tabs on that usage. The RebornOS-2020.12.28-x86_64 ISO was 2.07GB…anyway, since this is taking so long, I’ll probably have to do another test installation tomorrow during my “Bonus Bytes” data usage slot to do a double-check on this slowness. I’ve had problems with slow Arch-based installs before, but this sets a new record for being slow to install. Maybe I’ll try their default Gnome DE tomorrow, and just use the default installation packages selection. Let me squeeze some more pics in at this point:
I went with the Cinnamon Desktop…nice selection tho. That led to this next pic:
They offered a *LOT* of apps you could “add in now and avoid having to install them later.” I added a lot of the extra apps, but should’ve gone with the default selection…as I discovered later.
Just noticed that they are downloading at just 150-180Kbps right now…are they that slow or is it my ISP? Problems with AMD ‘n Ryzen™ on the ‘Apevia’ computer?!? RebornOS may just be slow at installing: Manjaro Architect may be similar in spirit to RebornOS in the way it installs (Manjaro Architect took about 3 hours to install). Almost 3 hours now, with 30-33 Kbps speeds, so at just 98% complete it is going to be over 3 hours for this installation. Looks like it is going to be about 3+++GB’s added, so my test tomorrow will be w/o those extra apps being added!!!
Took 3 hours and 10 minutes to install.
Final SSD installation didn’t work in the AMD ‘Apevia’ computer, i.e. it would get to the newly installed boot menu, but couldn’t boot into Welcome Screen or the final desktop. However, same newly installed SSD would boot into both Intel test computers ‘Inwin’ and ‘Rose’ – for awhile anyway (?!).
Day 1 – Second try:
(NOTE: Decided not to wait until tomorrow’s “Bonus Bytes” slot.) Cnchi is just a slow installer that is rarely reaching even 900+ Kbps download speeds for just the default apps packages. TestMyNet is showing download speeds of 13+ Mbps @ 4:45PM, so HughesNet isn’t that slow. Arch-based Distros are notorious for having buggy ‘n slow mirror sites which is one reason for their extremely small Desktop User Base. Amazing…even the default apt package has eaten up 2GB of my Anytime Data already, at just over 53% thru the installation (50 minutes installation so far…)!?!
OK…still going with the Cinnamon DE, and then just using their default apps packages it took 1 hour 28 minutes. After eating up 3GB’s of my 10GB “Anytime Data” slot, HughesNet will soon start “throttling” my Anytime Data downloads…ooops!!! 😉 I’ve become use to it now…besides, I still have 32.1GB’s of “Bonus Bytes” left and they don’t throttle normal surfing during the Anytime Data slot. New month doesn’t start until 01/20/2021…Ditto on ‘Da “ooops!!!” Too tired to finish the RebornOS testing tonight…
Day 2 – Third try:
Well, that last installation with the AMD ‘n Ryzen™ ‘Apevia’ computer worked before I shutdown ‘n went to bed last night; however, this morning it wouldn’t work on any computer…the Boot Menu showed a Windows Boot Manager partition…hold on ‘n let me grap that GParted pic I took before bed:
Here’s a pic of the Windows Boot Manager info from BIOS – must mean that 512 MiB Fat32 partition:
That worked last night, but not this morning!?! Have moved to the ‘InWin’ Intel #2 Linux test machine for a third try, thinking the ‘Apevia’ AMD or the Nvidia GPU is causing compatibility problems – tho that Nvidia GeForce 1660’s driver was automatically installed last night ‘n working. Unfortunately, I didn’t grab a pic after checking the system info!?!
Installation is now at 72% after 37 minutes, so it seems to be moving faster on the Intel machine…tho still slow for a normal Linux Distro installation. Am going with Cinnamon DE again, but added LibreOffice to the default app packages. The RebornOS download mirror is still plodding along in the Kbps speeds, but overall it is moving a lot faster and is at 98% after 48 minutes – HughesNet shows 16.5 Mbps capability – with a “172% middle variance”, i.e. lots of up ‘n down speeds with a satellite ISP, e.g. “TiP Summary – Minimum :: 5.6 Mbps | Middle :: 25.93 Mbps | Maximum :: 75.8 Mbps”. “TIP” is for test in progress.
OK…finished installing in 55 minutes!!! Much faster than the AMD machine. Let’s test this new SSD installation…
Looking good on the ‘InWin’ Intel test computer. Here is system info:
Here is a GParted pic of the Intel machines partition setup:
Note that a “Mount Point” section had been added during the ‘InWin’ Intel #2 Linux test machine installation, but was missing in the ‘Apevia’ AMD’s Second try default app packages installation pic above. I have another pic of that first 3 hour ‘n 10 minutes failed installation attempt, but am not going to waste Media Library space by adding it; however, it was missing the 512 MB Fat32 partition that both other pics show, and also didn’t have a “Mount Point” section.
RebornOS doesn’t seem to realize that a Desktop OS installation isn’t exactly rocket science. Manjaro-Architect 20.0.3 also took a long time (1.5 hours was fastest), due partly to slow mirrors, but I thought it was a much better OS, e.g. it offered better Root Login Access and also installed to the ‘Apevia’ AMD Ryzen™ computer without any problems.
Linux Desktop OS developers work hard, and most work for free, so Linux Desktop is basically nothing more than a ‘Hobby OS’ compared to Windows 10. Arch ‘n Arch-based Desktop OSes aren’t even listed on any of the reliable OS tracking sites, like Google ‘n NetMarketshare.
LINUX IS LIKE A BOX OF CHOCOLATES – you never know what you’re gonna get!