Am in the process of upgrading my ‘Rose’ computer (see Parts 1 ‘n 2 for info), but at the same time I am planning another upgrade also, to the ‘Apevia’ Ryzen™ computer. AMD processors have never seemed as ‘Snappy’ to me as the Intel processors…they were fine, but lacked the snappiness I found in Intel processors. Of course, I am a Desktop user and processors have other uses also, e.g. Gaming ‘n Workstations. Note: I lack an experienced opinion on those last two uses, but clearly recognize the importance of both.
That pic is from UserBenchmark, a site that provides ratings on all three of the mentioned CPU uses – Gaming, Desktop ‘n Workstations.
Here is a pic of 4 popular MoBo brands ‘n the Operating Systems they support:
Besides a lack of Desktop snappiness when compared to Intel processors, 4 of the top MoBo OEMs only list Windows 10 as a supported Operating System. That brings me to another AMD processor problem I have found since starting this Blog over a year ago, especially since the ‘Apevia’ Ryzen™ computer build. I highlighted some of those problems on the Ryzen™ ‘Stuff‘ page, and again on the MX Linux page where some Linux Distros failed to install on the new ‘Ace’ the Laptop with a AMD A9-9420 APU processor. AMD doesn’t fully support Linux on new builds, upgrades, new laptops, etc. and AMD even admits to such; however, various Distros out of the various 2000+ of them also add to the problem, i.e. AMD does support some Distros, e.g. Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL). Confusing because there are 2000+ Linux Distros, some of them update drivers/firmware ‘n some don’t or are slow at doing so. Enough…basically, AMD ‘n Linux have problems when placed together. AMD Ryzen products can also be extremely deceptive on what OS or OSes they support:
AMD Ryzen seems to not list an OS on their main processor Specifications page if the processor doesn’t support Linux; however, e.g. they do end up listing Windows 10 – 64-Bit Edition on their Drivers and Support page…nothing on Linux support.
Also, if at least one Linux Distro is supported, it gets listed on the Specifications page up front, e.g. the AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ 3990X Processor:
They list Windows 10 – 64-Bit Edition ‘n RHEL x86 64-Bit (Red Hat Enterprise Linux) as supported OSes right up front. Their $3,599.99 processor supports WIN10 ‘n RHEL…er, OK ‘n thanks for letting us know right up front on the front page.
AMD ‘n Linux have compatibility problems, as mentioned in the Risky Ryzen – ‘*BIG* time Confusion & Compatibility Issues’ post.
Anyway, have been checking all this stuff out because I will probably end up upgrading ‘Apevia’ to a AMD Ryzen™ 9 3900X when the price drops below $400 again…did buy a Noctua NH-U9S if that Wraith Prism cooler is too noisy (which I have heard) and/or I can’t shut off RGB LED on it.
As we’ve long known, AMD’s suggested pricing is typically far from actual retail pricing, so we’ll have to see where the XT processors land when they reach general availability on July 7, 2020, or if AMD reduces prices on the existing models.
Apparently not any really big changes in this Ryzen ‘XT’ 3000-Series line, and have seen price fluctuations on the 3900X over the past few months, so maybe a brief big drop is coming. It will go into a test computer ‘n I expect some tweaking will be needed to overcome normal AMD/Linux issues. Am also looking for a GPU for it…maybe one of those GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER or something else below $160.
Will try to keep the upgrade below $600 for the ‘Apevia’ but not easy with AMD products. The AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600 is probably the best price/performance deal around…like around $320 for CPU+GPU, but I have been eyeing that 3900X since building ‘Apevia’ Ryzen™ computer. 😉
Will add this post to the Ryzen™ ‘Stuff‘ page…