First, let me give some thanks and recognition to PCPARTPICKER for the help it has provided in choosing compatible parts in this attempt at building a Ryzen Test Computer. Normally I use UserBenchmark to help with a build, but PCPARTPICKER is a lot more useful with this Ryzen build.
Have built 2 AMD computers in the past, but it’s been over 13 years since the last one, and AMD has certainly made it more difficult, IMHO. Granted, some of these Ryzens have only been out a few months, but the Ryzen 3 2200G that I originally ordered (then canceled due to slow shipping date) has been out since 2/12/2018, and it still gets a ‘Warning’ on a lot of AM4 MoBo’s. Recent build with Intel i9 9900 involved a newly launched CPU (launched 2nd Quarter 2019) and I didn’t have any problems selecting a MoBo.
Never really saw the AMD processors as being ‘Snappy’ on desktop usage, when compared to Intel’s; however, I am no gamer so that may be where they get all the positive reviews. I moved to Intel builds at my 1rst real opportunity and have no regrets. Still, AMD Ryzens were getting loads of positive press and reviews, so I wanted to give them a try. Further I get into the build the more problems seem to show up. My ‘final choice’ for a MoBo was the ASUS Prime A320M-K AMD Ryzen AM4, since it was compatible with the Ram in my InWin build, and some money could be saved by swapping parts around. Notice the “Ryzen” part of that…that…that CPU’s or APU’s (more confusion added with different terms) name that might be a 1rst or 2nd or 3rd “Gen” or maybe a 2000 Series or a 3000 Series? Is putting the name “Ryzen” on a MoBo that might be incompatible with the Ryzen processor you’re buying a form of ‘False Advertisement’? Anyway, Ryzen seems to have BIOS problems with many AM4 Ryzen MoBo’s. Also, when retail distributors advertise “Upgrade to Ryzen Kit” (e.g. AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600 kit) and fail to mention that you will also need to buy an expensive “Discrete Graphics Card” afterwards, is that a form of ‘False Advertising’?
So far, I get warnings on the AMD A320 (see above pic) and AMD B450 chipset MoBo’s…here’s a B450 warning pic:
So you take a gamble (even if you knew about BIOS problems) and buy this Ryzen processor and MoBo…then you find out you need another AM4 processor (about $60) in order to upgrade the MoBo’s BIOS for the Ryzen…loooooooooooooooooong story, so here’s a pic to save a ‘Thousand Words’:
That’s from one of AMD’s solutions for the ‘Unable to Boot’ problems, so they’ll temporarily ‘*LOAN*’ you a processor that can update the MoBo’s BIOS. You can’t make this stuff up.
I finally found a compatible MoBo, one with an X570 chipset, but its Memory QVL doesn’t list the PNY Anarchy memory I have in InWin, and I’m not going to buy compatible RAM for that $180 MoBo because I’m not going to buy a $180 MoBo! Oh, BTW, I have decided to go with the Ryzen 5 3400G if and/or when I ever built this ‘pain-in-the-neck’ computer.
Speaking of Memory QVL’s – that’s more confusion, and you need to be careful there also…more pics:
That’s the Memory QVL for the $60 Asus PRIME A320M-K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard, and the PNY Anarchy memory is compatible with all 4 of those QVL choices. Here’s the B450:
I don’t honestly recall if any of those choices were compatible with the PNY memory, and am not going to bother checking again, since at least one choice was not compatible. Here’s the X570 pic:
Their Memory QVL choices actually list the “Core Family: Picasso” but it doesn’t list the PNY memory … PCPARTPICKER doesn’t list any compatible issues with those parts, but I follow the Memory QVL closely when picking memory, and it’s not listed there.
So that’s where I’m at now – tired and confused by all this research. Probably end up going with the $60 MoBo and the Ryzen 5 3400G…if there is a BIOS problem that I can’t fix without the processor thru their USB Flash Bios utility, then I will buy another processor that can upgrade the BIOS – hate to do such, but also hate spending $180 for a MoBo. Maybe the BIOS issue has been fixed, but I have found nothing that says that…just lots of ‘maybe & maybe not’ all over the internet. Will Ryzen work with Linux? Windows 10 is the only one that is officially supported, but some say Linux works…one of the reasons for this Ryzen testing.
Adding this to the Ryzen™ ‘Stuff‘ page.
Still on hold…